Counterproductive (Curse Jar)

I was cleaning out my pockets and came across another one of my attempts at cartoonery.  I believe it came to me while at work, after reading through the archives of xkcd, hence the quick scribble on a notepad. It wouldn’t get much better if I tried, so I’ll post the first and only draft (including an edit), crumples and all:

Curse Jar-1

I think the curse should stay, don’t you?

12 thoughts on “Counterproductive (Curse Jar)

  1. Toni

    I’ve thought quite a bit before posting.

    The cartoon doesn’t really work without it. But because of who it’s from it fails for me anyway. I appreciate you have different feelings about swearing than I do, but for me, swearing from a Christian is not validated by being funny. A genuine question – would you consider me making a seriously dirty joke (I used to like off-colour jokes) acceptable, and if so, why or why not?

    Strictly speaking it’s not a curse, although if you tell me that swearing and cursing are the same in Canada then I’ll believe you. An example of a curse would be ‘gor blimey’.

    Maybe I shouldn’t have bothered, but you did ask. Parade, meet rain.

  2. Linea

    Whatever “g– b—–” means! Seriously, I would not consider this a “curse” either. Off colour language perhaps, swear maybe but a curse is, to me, a form of evil wished on another.

    Fecal matter, yeah. Means exactly the same but rather lacks the ring.

  3. Marc

    Rilla: It seems my humour isn’t all that original. But I think I knew that already. Hilarious commercial.

    Everyone: I wondered about the word “curse” after I posted this, but I had little choice, as I had already written “curse jar” on the jar and I scanned the picture as it was found in my pocket. Should’ve written “cuss jar” or “swear jar”, I suppose. Perhaps the cartoon would have been better with a little more work.

    I don’t think I’m going to get into the “Christians and Swearing” discussion—I think we’ve done that here before and I don’t see us coming to any sort of consensus! 🙂

    (I can’t find the previous discussion, so maybe I had it elsewhere. But still…)

  4. Marc

    Um…now I’m not sure if you’re serious or not.

    I’d consider saying “Shit” (or what have you) quite a different thing from telling a “dirty joke”. But then, what kind of joke is “dirty”?

    I guess I’ve been baited? I don’t know. Saying you’re serious and then linking to Monty Python has seriously confused me! 8o

  5. Toni

    The ‘nudge nudge’ skit was quite smutty in it’s time. And I was serious. Why should profanity be acceptable but not sexual inuendo?

  6. Marc

    [edited to add some smileys and further comments]

    “The ‘nudge nudge’ skit was quite smutty in its time.”

    That fact about the Python skit is precisely one of the reasons I generally am not offended when a person uses profanity (by which I mean the four-letter words).

    I don’t believe those words are inherently good or evil (though they can be used for either). Rather, the “morality” of a given word is dictated by culture. Essentially, you and I and the man next door assign levels of offensiveness to any given word. In another time and another place a completely different set of words would be deemed unacceptable. In fact, I imagine the list of “offensive” words is different in the UK than it is in North America.

    In my upbringing, for example, not only “damn”, “hell” and “ass” (to name a couple of perhaps tamer cuss words) were offensive, but to some people so were “crap”, “fart”, “fluff”, “heck”, “darn”, “dang”, “shoot”, “geez”, “geepers”. In fact, I believe someone was even bothered by the use of the word “beer” (I lived in a teetotaling community).

    Clearly, many of those words are now seen as acceptable. In fact, at your end of the pond, many of those words were probably never offensive, except maybe insofar as American churches were an influence.

    Now perhaps I’m sorting of walking a thin line here, viz-a-viz Romans 14 and living at peace with everybody—but still, they are “words” and they are only as offensive or hurtful or evil as we make them rather than as they are.

    Now when it comes to sexual innuendo, you might be asking the wrong person, because a) my wife has a serious weakness for sexual innuendo (you might say she is the Queen of Innuendo), and b) many of us ’round these parts have been having great fun with Michael Scott’s (The Office) “That’s what she said” joke. 🙂

    I think our culture is getting less prudish which I think is good, to an extent. Sex is no longer a taboo subject for Christians. (Though I think the sexualization of everything in our culture is a very bad thing…and the line between what is acceptable and what is unacceptable is not always clear.)

    But I presume when you refer to “a seriously dirty joke” you mean something very filthy, and not simply giggling at certain potential double-entendres from the golf lexicon. I’ll tell you why there’s a difference between saying “Shit” and telling seriously dirty joke: “shit” is an exclamation which means exactly the same as any number of other exclamations, except for some reason it has been singled out as offensive. A seriously dirty joke is offensive because it likely objectifies, degrades or insults women (or men), who made in the image of God; is likely lustful; and it perverts God’s good creation of sex.

    Now before I get lambasted (by anyone) and get verses from Philippians thrown at me, there’s much more to say on the subject of course. I’m no expert and I’m certainly not perfect. And I don’t feel like my position is final for me—I am not certain of what I’ve said here, but I am comfortable with it.

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